Wallace Wong, Looked After Children & Gender Dysphoria

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This article was originally published on gendercriticalwoman.blog on May 3, 2021, and is republished here with permission. We’ve made minor changes: a small addition to the title, a few added links, an image and two videos. Though STILLTish writes from the UK, her article on Canadian psychologist Dr. Wallace Wong is important reading for Canadians.

Wallace Wong

dr wallace wong, a young man with dark hair wears a light pink blazer, a white and purple patterned scarf and smiles at the camera
Dr. Wallace Wong

Wallace Wong is a Gender Identity Specialist based in Vancouver. He boasts that, of the 1000 children in his care, 500 are children from the looked after system. That is children who are, in some way, wards of the state. Wallace Wong works for the Ministry of Children and Families and also has a private practice.

Screenshot of text reading: He currently works at the Ministry of Children and Family Development – Child and Youth Mental Health, as a clinical psychologist of the Gender Health Program (GHP), and the Children and Adolescence Sexual Health Program (ACSH). He also has a private practice where he sees children and youth with different gender and sexual health issues.
Dr. Wong has been doing research on topics of transgender children and youth for numbers of years, and they can be found in different professional journals. He is also an author of three sexual health related children books called, When Kathy is Keith, It's So Gay and It's Okay, and My Positive Uncle.
Several phrases have wavy red underlines: "works at the Ministry of Children and Family Development," "psychologist," "Gender Health Program (GHP),", "has a private practice.", "When Kathy is Keith", "It's So Gay and It's Okay" and "My Positive Uncle".

He arrived at his current career path after noticing how many “transwomen” were impacted by the HIV/AIDs crisis. He initially began working with adults but soon noticed that the age of those with “Gender Identity” confusion was becoming increasingly younger.

A scanned excerpt from a double-spaced transcript page, in black monospaced typewriter-style text on a white background. The first line is indented like the start of a paragraph. Two passages have hand-drawn red underlines. The first runs under "younger and younger, and the rate is increasing," spanning most of the third line. The second runs under "two-and-three-quarters year old" on the last line. The excerpt ends mid-sentence, so the text continues past the crop.
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Okay. There we go. So I think the outcome, what we see is children who surface is getting younger and younger, and the rate is increasing very fast. So the youngest patient that I have is two-and-three-quarters year old. So you can

You can listen to the full audio at this site. I imagine that many of you may diverge from their larger aims (as do I) however, given the dearth of coverage in other media outlets I will link to their research. This is the only way to honour my commitment to provide primary sources, where possible. The link is below.

Wallace Wong

The clips in my piece were included in the vimeo embedded in the above link. I have listened to it, in its entirety, and can attest to the accuracy of the transcribing. It is a long presentation and I can’t do justice to all of the issues it raises but below is a brief overview.

Wong argues that we must not confuse gender incongruence/roles with being Transgender but most of the examples supplied are of boys who like “girly” things. Expect lots of references to princesses and pretty things. He dismisses research showing high rates of desistance in children who, historically, claimed a trans-identity. He argues that “gender” is innate and quotes some research about hard-wired neurological causes based on MRI scans proving #LadyBrain. He also quotes some self-reported adherence to sex stereotypical behaviour, typically associated with the opposite sex. I suspect Wallace has not heard of the, Shakespearean, quote “the wish was father to the thought” (Henry IV, Part II). We are treathing retrospective wish fulfilment as if it is peer reviewed evidence. Laverne Cox & Caitlin Jenner are wheeled out to confirm the idea that children know they are trans age three. Caitlin, you may remember managed to father five children and win Olympic medals during his male life. Laughably, at one point a video commentator appears to think the existence of Facebook “genders” has some sort of evidential significance.

Image description: A scanned excerpt from a transcript in black monospaced typewriter-style text on a white background. The speaker label "VOICE ONE:" is on the left, and the dialogue is indented after it. Hand-drawn red pen marks include a short curved underline beneath "Laverne Cox." There is also a small red bracket before "transgender," with a long red underline running beneath "transgender issues are finally making it." A final red underline sits under "mainstream."
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VOICE ONE: With the wonderful Laverne Cox rising to fame, Bruce Jenner's groundbreaking interview, transgender issues are finally making it mainstream.
Image description: A scanned transcript excerpt in the same black monospaced typewriter-style text. The speaker label "VOICE TWO:" is on the left, and the dialogue is indented after it. A short vertical red mark sits between "reality." and "To," which seems to mark where the quoted passage ends. A red line runs below the second line of text, starting near "even" and extending right. The excerpt ends mid-sentence after "To."
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VOICE TWO: We know that gender is a complex and varied issue, even Facebook recognized that reality. To

He is also at pains to dismiss any concern that confusion could arise between emerging homosexuality and a proto transkid. Similarly he argues that high rates of autism can be expected because both autistic traits and transgender traits are biologically determined. High rates of co-morbid mental health issues are to be expected, he argues, because being transgender is hard.

Image description: A scanned transcript excerpt in black monospaced typewriter-style text on a white background, double-spaced. The top line is slightly cut off, and the passage starts mid-sentence. Many phrases have hand-drawn red underlines: "Some of the kids can," "genuine, just depressed," "nothing related to being transgender," "the kid," "is depressed because I'm trapped in this body," "gender related," "depressed trapped in this body," and "have concurrent depression going on." There is also a small red dash in the left margin next to the second-to-last line.
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couple possibility here. Some of the kids can be, like, genuine, just depressed, but nothing related to being transgender. Or the kid, like you say, is depressed because I'm trapped in this body. That is gender related. Or the kid can be, like, I'm depressed trapped in this body, but I also have concurrent depression going on.

Below Dr Wallace seems keen that we should know he is seeing patients as young as 3. He also makes it clear about the fast pace of this change and the fact that research has not kept pace with this development.

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And then after that, and I thought that should be enough. Then I see the younger kids. So the younger kid come see me as young as 3 years old. They will come see me. So I was like --
So you can see that it's all happening since 1996 to now. It's really about 20 years we're talking about, right? So it's really happening very fast. And the [indiscernible] in academic area, you know when you have to do the research, by the time you write the paper, you publish it, it takes time, right? So -- so the research is not keeping up with this, because things are

Below is where Wong makes the startling admission that 50% (500 out of his 1000 referrals) are from the Ministry of Children and families. This means they are somewhere in the care system and commonly referred to as “Looked After Children”. Dr Wallace doesn’t appear to have much professional curiosity about the exponential growth in “transkids” over this period.

Jenn Smith (also based in Vancouver) is a male who expresses “feminine” and ascribes this to his experience within the care system. Jenn argues that children in care are particularly vulnerable to “identity” issues which also extend to “gender identity”. It was Jenn Smith who first made me consider this aspect of the debate.

You can catch up with Jenn Smith on his YouTube channel and here Jenn Talks specifically about this issue here:

Listening to Jenn Smith talk it is hard not to be concerned about an estimated figure of one in ten LAC (Looked After Children) identifing as transgender. This is contrasted with an estimated figure of one in 200 of children residing with their birth families. Another disturbing dimension is whether the indigenous children, over-represented in LAC settings, are also being medicalised as “transgender”. This has dangerous echoes of the scandal of sterilisation of indigenous peoples which is a stain on Canada’s history. If they are included in this population, of transkids, that is a damning indictment of those tasked with the welfare of children in British Columbia.

Wong does identify the dangers of social contagion in his presentation. I suspect this is now such an obvious phenomenon he feels obliged to address it. He prefaces the quotes below with some arguments that the internet has allowed “trans children” to develop an awareness of their identity and find acceptance, and knowledge, in on-line communities. Below, he at least acknowledges the dangers of kids, particularly those “on the spectrum” (referring to Autism I assume) to be swept along with trans-ideation.

Image description: A scanned transcript excerpt in black monospaced typewriter-style text on a white background, double-spaced, with an indented first line. Hand-drawn red underlines mark "good and bad," "are somewhere on the spectrum," "easily encouraged to one way or the other," and "may not be where they're supposed to be." There is a small red mark at the left edge beside the start of "be."
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So it's good and bad, because I think that for information-wise, they got to know more, right? But at the same time, sometimes, some of the kids, they are somewhere on the spectrum. They can be easily encouraged to one way or the other. That may not be where they're supposed to be. Does that make sense, right? Especially younger kids, right?
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But the down side of it is, like, sometimes the kid, they will, Oh, this is how I feel. And the kids will start encouraging each other. Hey, look at my chest surgery, looks so good. That will be something that you should get too. And the kids will usually take on that, Hey, I should

Astonishingly he acknowledges that 20% of Transgender kids are autistic but this is simply dismissed because autistic kids and transgender kids are “born this way“. This is not an uncommon feature of arguments from Gender Identity proponents. Once you embrace the belief of an innate gender identity you can find evidence everywhere and fit facts to confirm your hypothesis. Conversely if, like me, you are a sceptic the ideology has more holes than a string vest.

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Q Hi. I'm a sexual health educator who works predominantly with folks who are [indiscernible]. And so I know that the research is showing that there's an occurrence of autism and gender variance. So I just wanted to [indiscernible]
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A And I think that's very true. Because, like, back then, we saw that, but the research is not there. So now, the research is telling us up to 20 percent of the transgender kid will also have high-functioning autism. And I think in a way, that really tell us by [indiscernible] they're born this way, because they just happened to

He introduces videos throughout his presentation and one is a parent whose child came out to them at three years of age. I have not included the parent’s quote but suffice to say, like a lot of these tales, it is a boy who likes pink and sparkly things. We are told that her original therapist counselled a watch and wait approach and quoted an 80% figure for expectations of desistance. The same presentation proceeds to rubbish a study based in the Netherlands which supported this observation.

Image description: A scanned transcript excerpt in black monospaced typewriter-style text on a white background, double-spaced. It starts mid-sentence, and there is no speaker label. Hand-drawn red underlines mark "80 percent number," "stopped going to the clinic, the clinic assumed they weren't transgender anymore," "Maybe they found another doctor," "Maybe their parents weren't okay with them being transgender," and "they moved." There are small red marks at the left edge beside the lines that begin with "transgender" and "they moved."
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something really interesting. She said that that 80 percent number was bunk. She said that statistic came in part from a study at a clinic for transgender kids in the Netherlands. Apparently, when the kids stopped going to the clinic, the clinic assumed they weren't transgender anymore, but nobody checked up on them to make sure this was true. Maybe they found another doctor. Maybe their parents weren't okay with them being transgender. Maybe they moved. But we don't know, because nobody checked.

What the audience are not told is that there was only one Gender Identity clinic in the Netherlands so the researchers made the, entirely reasonable, assumption that loss to follow up could reasonably be correlated with desistance. The alternative was that the child had been taken abroad, and paid for treatment, rather than access the free treatment within the Netherlands.

Wong also rubbishes another study which found that most of the boys grew up to be gay. The unfortunately named “Sissy boys” were identified for their Gender non-conforming presentation. Here Wong argues that the study was flawed because they did not use boys who said they were actually girls. It does not seem to have occured to Wong that it was the 1970’s. Identifying as the other sex was not a social norm at the time. It is the near ubiquity of teaching about Gender Identity in our schools (especially in Canada) that has left a generation thinking you can choose your sex.

Image description: A scanned transcript excerpt in black monospaced typewriter-style text on a white background, double-spaced, with an indented first line. Hand-drawn red underlines mark "too feminine," "that most of these boys grew up to be gay men," and "effeminate little boys and boys who actually said they were girls."
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There have been some other studies in the United States. These studies happened in the 1950s up through the 1970s. They studied lots of boys who were considered too feminine for the time. The studies found that most of these boys grew up to be gay men and only a few them ended up being transgender. But they didn't distinguish between effeminate little boys and boys who actually said they were girls. What about those kids? What about the ones like mine who insist they are another gender?

Wong then utters this statement which shows he is utterly disregarding any research that suggests he may be making an egregious error. To much laughter he dismisses any caution with this facile statement. Apparently, if the 80% is correct he is lucky enough to be seeing the 20% who would persist. Crassly he also argues that some of those kids may not appear in the figures because they will have committed suicide. As I have said, many times, there is just no evidence for this epidemic of transgender suicides in adolescents. Wong may feel blessed and lucky but it was bad luck for any child who walked into his office.

Image description: A scanned excerpt from a question-and-answer transcript in black monospaced typewriter-style text on a white background, double-spaced. It starts partway through an answer. After that come alternating "Q" and "A" lines. The bottom line is cut off, and only the top half of its text shows. Hand-drawn red underlines mark "the transgender kid," "they kill themselves," "are not being counted," "about 1 to 10,000 at this time," "1 in 1,000?", "But I think the 80 percent number, like, 80 percent they grow out of it," "I'm so blessed that I'm seeing all the 20 percent," and "just so lucky."
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If you -- like, some of the transgender kid, in youth, they kill themselves; you are not being counted. And you're so closeted, going in the closet, you're not being counted. So that number is not really accurate, but it's about 1 to 10,000 at this time.
Q But that's not your guess.
A No. No.
Q Your guess would be 1 in 1,000?
A I don't know. I would say -- I don't know. It's a lot more. But I -- But I think the 80 percent number, like, 80 percent they grow out of it, if that is right, I'm so blessed that I'm seeing all the 20 percent. I am just so lucky. Just so lucky. So that, I can answer you, now.
Yes?
Q And what about young adults who are just sort of [line cut off]

All of which takes me to the more egregious aspect of the advice Wong is dishing out. The question of how to overcome barriers to access to Gender Identity treatment was raised. Wong requests that this part of his presentation is not taped and then, after a side swipe at the gate-keeping goverment, he advises: “Pull a stunt. Suicide, every time, they will give you what you need”

Image description: A scanned excerpt from a transcript in black monospaced typewriter-style text on a white background, double-spaced. Along the left edge are line numbers 1 through 11, partly cut off by the crop. The passage has three speaker labels: an "A" answer, then "VARIOUS SPEAKERS:", then "DR. WONG:". The "A" answer starts mid-sentence with a dash. Hand-drawn red underlines mark "in preventive care," "Don't tape me on this one," "What they do is, like, We are so short of that," and "your kid is sick enough, suicidal, running away, cutting."
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A -- I would like to be referred to him, he keep saying this, right? But in a way, I really think -- I truly believe in preventive care. Because, like, I think what the government -- okay. Okay. Don't tape me on this one, I really think the government is doing reactive care.
VARIOUS SPEAKERS: Yeah. M'mm-hmm.
DR. WONG: What they do is, like, We are so short of that. We'll wait till your kid is sick enough, suicidal, running away, cutting, then we take you.
Image description: A scanned transcript from Wallace Wong's talk in black monospaced typewriter-style text on a white background, double-spaced. It starts mid-sentence, and continues into a second indented paragraph. The final line, "Yes?", is partly cut off at the bottom. Hand-drawn red underlines mark "Pull a stunt," "Suicide, every time, they will give you what you need," "learn it very fast, right?" and "Hey, Mom, right."
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what? Pull a stunt. Suicide, every time, they will give you what you need. They learn that. They learn it very fast, right? If I want and need this, I just need to, Hey, Mom, right?
So I think that even the government is, like, telling the kids, Hey, wait till you're sick enough. Don't do -- we do reactive care here. We don't do preventive care.
Yes?

This series is looking at the vulnerability of Children in Care; who have no parents to speak up for them.  Not all the parents in Vancover are absent.  It was also Vancouver who imprisoned a father who opposed the provision of testosterone for his teenage daughter and refused to remain silent. It would be interesting to see who was the Gender Identity Specialist involved in that case.  Is there a connection? 

Image description: A still frame from the 1990s TV show House of Cards. It's a close-up of an older man with thinning, swept-back white hair, pale blue eyes and a lined face. He looks straight at the camera with a faint, knowing half-smile and slightly raised eyebrows, which gives him a sly, confiding look. He wears a dark suit and a white shirt. Behind him are warm, dim wood-panelled walls, suggesting a formal room or office.
The caption displays his famous catchphrase, "You might think that; I couldn't possibly comment," which he uses to deflect questions while implying guilt or agreement.

I could not say but I certainly want to do a series on parents caught up in this nightmare.

If you can support my work it will be appreciated.  Below is one way to do so until we get more media outlets willing to cover the issues I cover on my blog.  Only if it is affordable and regardless my content will remain free. 

My next piece will be on the percentage of kids in care referred to GIDs, in the U.K. Are the researchers concerned that these, vulnerable, kids have no parents to question the medical interventions proposed? Or. Are they worried children in care are not being treated fast enough? Watch this space. 

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Tish is a writer from the UK who is gender critical having started researching the issue of gender because of a gay son who identifies as “trans” and is also concerned about women’s rights to single sex spaces. She writes on her Gender Critical Woman Blog, exploring how this has taken such firm root in Western societies (cognitive & regulatory capture). If you can, please support her work by donating to @STILLTish here.
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